Hoping for Feedback, So Far Getting Static

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One of the biggest problems I face when I contribute anywhere on the internet is feedback. Often there just isn’t any.

Whether it’s Twitter, this website, Firstwaves.org, Reader, Buzz, Fizz, Flickr, Facebook, Shittr, whatever, I just don’t get much feedback at all.

It’s partly because I’m a self obsessed narcissist[1] that this bothers me so, but mostly because I just want to know what I can do better. What I’d like to know is if people find the things I share or write about are interesting, well written, useful, or pertinent so I can adjust my focus accordingly.

I started out blogging saying I was writing for myself, and I didn’t care if people found it interesting, but really I do. I want to be helpful. I want to share parts of the web that people might not otherwise find, and expose the things I’ve learned in my job or in my leisure. Now as sites like Twitter and Facebook become more mainstream, I find myself trying to be helpful and useful there as well and find myself in a (stupid) dilemma about where to put all this stuff I want to share. For a while I was using Twitter, but I didn’t feel like I was really saying anything of worth there. The most followed and re-tweeted[2] users were the ones who were constantly finding and posting new stuff. When I got around to doing it, it was usually old-hat or (I assume) fairly uninteresting. I say “I assume” because I only occasionally got re-shared or responded to, so I took it to mean that what I said was uninteresting or dull and didn’t warrant much attention. So I quit. Hopefully it didn’t come off in a “I’m taking my ball and going home” sorta way[3], but rather in a “I’m not sure what I’m doing here” sorta way. I’ve had more success with Facebook, because I’ve tried to share stuff I know my friends might appreciate, and I get a few more “likes” and an occasional comment there than I got the equivalent on Twitter. But my Buzz and Friendfeed streams are the equivalent of me standing on the roof of my house with a megaphone. A friend might hear me when they come over, but I could just talk to them. And everyone else who can hear it might just be getting annoyed with me.

I’m trying not to be sulky about this. What I’m hoping from this post is not pity, but an answer. From the people who DO actually follow me (via my feed, or on Facebook, or who just come and visit when they think of me), what sorts of things do I do well, so I can keep doing more of that? The most lovely suggestion I’ve had so far is that I continue to do more posts about my family and bubby girl. And if those are the ones people like the most then maybe I will. But I named my site “the Geekorium” for a reason — I am a geeky fellow, with geeky tastes and by far the things outside my family that interest me the most are geeky things. I like sharing such things, but am fairly certain that the majority of people who read my site regularly are family and friends who have no interest in what the latest gadget can do slightly better than that last gadget I said was awesome. Writing about my family is hard though, not because they aren’t worth writing about, but because I don’t want to be one of those people who are always exposing their love one’s lives on line for their own gratification. If I could find a way to do it without it coming off that way, I might.

I also do large run-on sentences and start a lot of paragraphs with “I”, so I know I’m not the greatest of authors, so if it’s my actual writing style that bugs you, then maybe I should know that too[4].

Should I keep my posts small? Talk about one topic only? Use words no bigger than two syla? Try and be funnier? Keep my sentences smaller? If you read my stuff and find it’s not quite what you’d like to read, tell me in my comments (or on Facebook, or via Buzz, or in the “suggestions” tab over there, or in an email) and maybe I can get better at it. They say you should write for your audience, and I’m not sure I’m doing such a bang up job at the moment, so please let me know.

I’d like to think that I’m getting better at this writing thing. I’d like to know what I can do better though. Stats and analytics software can only tell me so much — they can’t give me feedback about why one throw away post about Fred Basset gets more feedback than any of the other things I write about. So please help me out. Talk to me. Write to me. I’m listening.

Footnotes
  1. and isn’t everyone with a website a self obsessed narcissist? 
  2. that’s a twitter term for how people re-share information there for my non-twitter friends 
  3. I know one friend who took it that way 
  4. although be nice about it 
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  • Twitter's biggest strength and its biggest weakness are its hyper-realtime nature. If people notice you, you'll get instant attention and traffic. But a typical tweet only lasts a few minutes before it's obsolete. If you have something important you want to link to you either have to choose the right time of day to tweet it or, as most people tend to, post it several times over several hours (with a 'in case you missed this...' prepend).

    The other problem is people have become too comfortable with 140 character soundbites. Reading a blog with actual paragraphs is an effort in these decadent days. That's why I chose tumblr for my blog. If there's anything I want to say with more permanence and characters than twitter or facebook gives me, I'll put it up there (and then tweet it... a few times).

    Oh yeah, about comments: I don't know about anyone else but I'm so god damned lazy I often can't even be bothered to leave a comment somewhere because I have to type in my name and email first. That's why I love Disqus.

    I don't know if I actually made a point of any kind with all that. If I were to offer any advice I'd say keep actively seeking out and engaging your audience. Too many people write stuff and link to it without a call to action.
  • Couldn't resist. I think you're right. I found I couldn't play the twitter game very well.
  • You'll find that the whole "I'm going to be popular by posting new articles so I get retweeted" can very quickly turn into "I'm going to post nothing but articles from digg and reddit because I'm getting lots of followers and retweets this way". I have nothing against that, but I do unfollow those accounts because I've learned I prefer people tweeting normally. Factual stuff is fine, but in their own style. If they post stuff I'm interested in, I'll click it.

    COME BACK TO TWITTER D:
  • tl;dr
  • Well played.
  • kiesan
    I read alot of your stuff, but don't comment normally, actually at all until today. Our interests are similar, movies, music, geeky stuff and family. Comments seem to be a bit scary for most people as with me. You don't want to sound silly, and you don't want to be bullied by someone you don't know or do know behind a desk somewhere in the world. Perhaps people are becoming as anxious on the net as they are in real life in communicating with others.
    Is the net a safe place to voice ideas and questions?
  • I think you could be right. I suspect there is a divide between those that see the internet as a way to comment freely and without consequence, and those of us who understand that to comment with integrity you should leave your name, thereby removing that extra layer of anonymity as it were. I think the net is "safe" to voice ideas, as long as you understand that people might yell at you, but that they're probably just wankers.

    On the Geekorium though you're opoen to say what you like. If I have a problem with it, I promise I won't yell - your comment might just mysteriously disappear though.

    Check out my Site Rules if you wanna know my commenting policy.
  • kiesan
    Comforting to know... I think :-)
  • tarale
    I think you should spend a little more time on Twitter again. :) Of course, I would say that: that's where I am a lot of the time, and then I'd get to chat with you more!

    Most of the commenters on my blog are also people I know, but I do find every now and then I can sucker someone in via Twitter. ;)

    If you're after some writing critique, I'm happy to offer some sometime, if you'll help critique mine. :)
  • My problem with Twitter is that I feel how @Zombie_Plan does about commenting - like I'm gonna sound retarded and useless.

    I think that most of the people who might be suckered in from Twitter are the same people who would be reading it anyway as I only really follow Adelaidians. It's how I've met most of the commenters on this post too.
  • tarale
    Oh, I'm pretty sure I'm taking care of all the "retarded and useless" on
    Twitter. You don't have to worry about that, I've got it covered!
  • I'm in a similar predicament, I don't know whether things I write on NotGamers or ZombieSkittles are good, interesting, or anything. I get comments from friends and people I know, but rarely anything critiquing or giving me something to work from. I also have the one or two weird posts that seem to get more attention than others, for completely unknown reasons too.

    As for your writing, I enjoy reading posts like this. I'm not a programmer, or exceptionally computer literate, which is why posts like your Java Class series doesn't appeal to me. This is the same with similar posts on Rubenerd's blog, and other things. While I won't read them though, others obviously would find the information interesting.

    I like the idea of writing for myself, and do it most of the time, or for someone in particular. But I'll often ask questions to try and get a response, like you've effectively done here. Asking a question at the end can motivate people to provide the feedback you want/need, and can get conversation flowing which can in effect enhances your post/article.

    Just some random thoughts :)
  • Well thanks for the feedback. I guess I feel the same about Zombieskittles and NotGamers that you guys must feel about here and Firstwaves. I enjoy reading all your posts though, even if I don't comment often. Maybe we should all start ripping each other's posts apart, so we all know we care...


    On second thought, my fragile ego probably couldn't handle that.
  • I'm all for that. I love reading and replying to comments :) I rarely take the initiative to make my own, but I have been trying to be more outgoing conversation wise >_>

    I think another problem is I often have nothing to add that's really of any use, and I'm afraid if I do comment on something it'll come accross as retarded and useless. Then I realize that pretty much the entirity of things I write on the onlines are retarded.
  • Well if it makes you feel better, I feel exactly the same way about commenting. I'm afraid if I comment more I'll become one of those youtube-style commenters that just adds "LOL1 he hit his hed! snarf" to everything.

    Perhaps we could begin a blog collective where we all agree that no comment/post is too stupid and just go nuts.
  • I'm not sure about the going nuts thing, I do that too often in real life :P But as for being more comment concious and trying to post more, I'm all for that.
  • taciturnly
    Firstly, with Twitter I think most people's tweets are gone unnoticed. Or maybe I'm similar to you because most of my things never get a reply? With blogs I tend to notice most people don't comment unless there are repaying the fact you commented on their blog, or if it's a question, or something they have an opinion on. Even if they liked/loved the post and clicked the link, they may not mention or comment, why? Because it's easy not to?
    Your blog is supposed to be about you, I don't think you need to write a post directly for your audience unless its your firstwaves site, this site should be what you wanna share? Posts like your previous ones about deciding to standing up, or about wifey and bubba. I'd rather read your views about geeky stuff rather than you just posting about it, as that's why I read YOUR blog, and why I read your twitter.
  • Thanks Elle! <3

    I think they're all very good points that I need to hear. I guess I just don't know what people enjoy reading if they don't respond or share in some way. Maybe I just need to let it go and keep doing what I'm doing?
  • taciturnly
    I think that is exactly right, just keep going writing and enjoying your site.
    Maybe the question to ask is why do you need people to reply? You should be writing for yourself! :D
  • I think I want some sort of feedback so I can feel like I'm having conversations with people, rather than just shouting my thoughts into the wind. It can feel very lonely on the web some times.
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